how many people on here currently live in a bus?

topic posted Fri, March 11, 2005 - 7:37 PM by 
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i am just curious how many people here currently live in a bus. what is a situation like?

i have had 3 different places in the last 15 months and i am very happy and settled now. i found a place with this awesome guy and 3 weeks later he told me he was selling his house and buying a new one next to his ex so the kids could be closer all the time. so i moved with him to his new house and it is awesome. now i have a nice little yard of my own fenced with bamboo fencing. i have a carport behind my bus so i can use that for extra space and outdoor fun during the rainy season here in cali (which isnt very long, thankfully!). i am parked under several big bushy trees and the bus is shaded all day! it is perfectly cool in there and it was 80 degrees today! in all of my other places, it got very very hot in there. i am thrilled about that factor! and it is in the little neighborhood that has a country feel to it but it is only 4 blocks from downtown (as much of a downtown a town with 7,700 people can have). i guess i am feeling especially thrilled about it today and had to post. i am so happy that it is cool. that is the biggest drawback in my mind about living in a bus- the heat!

so how does everyone else like their spots?
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    We've lived in our schoolie for over 3 years now. We've traveled the west and stayed a month at a time at many locations but for the past two years we've been parked in the nature coast of Florida. We came down here to visit family and ended up buying 2.5 heavily wooded acres close to town. We've got an empty pool and a run down house but all the hookups for power, water and sewer are here.
    Living in a bus can get a little cramped at times, especaially when you have two big dogs and seven cats. We seem to manage though.
    Our schoolie has about 170 square feet of space in it and it's time for a little more space so we are now in the process of converting a 40' greyhound bus. With all the storage under the living area, we should have plenty of space in it. We are planning on going west in it in a couple or few months.
    • Steven, what will you do with your FL land when you leave?

      I spent some time around that part of FL last year, a little north of Crystal River at a cheap campground (but they had noseeums pretty bad). I had a tent at the time and just before I left someone wanted to give me a fixer upper trailer. I couldn't take it at the time, but now I have a vehicle that could handle it. I wouldn't mind going back to the area - or around Poncha Springs (spent some time in Salida also last year).
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        Peter,
        When we feel we are close enough to getting out of here, we'll put it up for sale. If you like the Floirida weather, this property is a small slice of heaven. We know we won't be able to find anything like it out west but the west is where we'd rather be.

        The Salida area was just named in one of the outdoors magazines as one of Americas top places for outdoor enthusiests to live. Now that the secret is out, we just have to hope it stays that way.
    • Hello folks
      New kid on the block here }:o) I live full time in my Skoolie here in Long Island N.Y. I have 2 banks of 12 / 6 volt ( 24 batteries ) deep cycle golf cart batteries wired for 12 volts and 1200 watts of PV solar and a 400 watt wind turbine to keep them charged. For heat I have a 40,000 btu furnase a 10,000 btu catalitic heater and a air tight wood stove 3 way frig, 4way hater heater. This is only my second year living in it I gotta tell yah, Im lovin it. Well, that's my 2 cents.

      Peace along the way
      Dennis the bus dweller N.Y.
  • Hi
    I live full time in my skoolie for a few years now and love it. I have lots of solar and a wind turbine to make electric. Im out here in N.Y. so the heat isn't that bad.

    Peace along the way
    Dennis the bus dweller N.Y.
    • hi,
      my partner moss and I have been liveing and traveling in our school bus almost a year now and love it...wouldnt trade it for anything ~Pixie
      • i have a old ford school bus that ive lived in travelled in ran a buisness in and recorded music in
        it is curenrly a sound proof studio in our yard
        its tough finding a place to play in the city
        ill be moving to baja soon and cant wait to get moved back in
        i have a methane digester for heat and cooking
        and am working on converting a onan generator to run on methane as well as a back up to solar
        i looooooove my bus
        my youngest daughter was born in it in an apple orchard over looking lake michigan
        i used to live on the farm in tn and was always drawn to the drilict busses there
        they still hold the magic that broughtthem there
        peace douglas
        • Hey douglas,
          Thats so great that you have your bus as a sound studio.My partner is an audio engineer and musician and we are working making part of our a bus solar powered recording studio . We want to be able to go to rainbow gatherings and record some of the wondefully talented family there.
          How many pannels do you have.We have just ordered two 120 watt pannels and are hoping that will be enough for us...if not we can always add more.
          Good idea with the generator.Another option is to get a diesel gen and run it off used veggie...that is what we run our bus with...we have gone thousands of miles on our system and paid very little for fuel...getting most of it from used veggie bins.

          If anyone is intrested we have detailed plans on our blog explaining with pics and diagrams exactly how we did our system from scratch...buying parts from the hardware store.

          It is here,

          www.enchantedgypsy.blogspot.com

          Love 'N Light ~ Pixie
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            Wed, October 12, 2005 - 11:14 AM
            Pixie I absolutely love you blog! I can't stop reading it!
            You and Moss look like beautiful reflections of Gaia and I send you light and love on your fabulous journey

            ~Namaste~
            Barefoot Willow
            • Awwww...thanks Willow, you are so sweet to say so ! I do love writing it also and I am so glad that some people are finding it inspirational and helpful.

              I remember,not to long ago, when we first decided that we were trading in our yurt for the bus life...there was so much I read about on the net and folks I talked to that inspired me and gave me good advice..I couldnt get enough of it. It feels good to pass that on to others.

              Whenever we follow our bliss and live our heart songs we radiate joy and love ...and that goes on to inspire others as well.

              It's so beautiful the way that happens...

              Much Love N Light Always ~ Pixie
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          Sun, October 30, 2005 - 11:46 PM
          Hey Mumbling - What's up with the methane digester? Is it connected to a composting toilet? What kind of stove do you have it hooked up to? How much cooking & heating can you do off of it?

          And Hey Dennis - What's up with the wind turbine? Where do you have it hooked up? Where'd you get it? Sounds like you shelled out some either money or effort or both for your total off-the-grid electrical. I'm curious if there are ways to do the same through do-it-yourself means (scrounge a part here, a motor there, add three pieces used chewing gum and voila!)

          I do not yet live on a bus. I will be spending the next 2 months working hard at making my new bus a full-time live-aboard. Her name's Aurora. I go to meet her (and bring her home) this Thursday. Very excited. She's a 71-pax Thomas-built International w/ a diesel DT466 and an Allison 643, extra tall headroom and 2 bonus undercarriage storage bins! Woot-WOOT!! Will post info about the conversion process as it's coming along.

          Peace,
          Valerie
          • the digester attatches to any septic tank
            its my own design
            ifn you look into it im sure you can come up with a way to macgyver anything
            the stove i use is a regular propane ca,per srove with new orifices put in
            from an active septic (like a campground ) i can fill a hundred lb tank in one night
            thats usuall y a week or two of cooking and heating
            in summer i dont cook as much or heat at all so it last a long time
            also in case i cant get methane it only takes 15 minto change the stove and heater back over to propane
            as far as making electricity if you are ok with the batteries it takes to store it then all you need is dc lights and appliances and some car generators
            figure out how to turn the generators and you got juice
            ive strung them in secuence to a bicycle or made my own wind mill out of plastic barrels and bike tires
            same thing will work for water wheels
            right now im modifying an air compressor tank to fill with pressure from a hose i run across the street
            like the old gas station bells only filling an air tank instead of ringing a bell
            the possibilities are endless
          • Hello Valerie

            It's pretty exciting picking up your first rig. Im pretty sure that engen and tranny are "bullet pruff" Your ne home should take you to a lot of great places. My little wind turbine is whats called an "Air-X" There between $500.00 and $600.00. Some times you can pick up a used one for a couple of hundred bucks. I've added to my solar since my last post. I now have 2200 watts of PV panels and 5200 amp hours of deep cycle batteries. If your thinking that you might want to go with solar power I have 12 / 51 watt (612 watts) used but in great shape PV solar panels that I would sell for $2100.00 plus insured shipping. There 13 years old but when bought new they come with a 25 year warrenty and they last far longer then 25 years. It's a nice starter set up. Also, stop by your local highway department and see if they have any old ones laying around. Along time ago, I got 8 old 48 watt panels the catskill highway department for $200.00 I used them for allmost 6 years and sold them for the same $200.00. As far as I know he's still useing them. also keep an eye on Ebay for some good deals. Hey, Good luck with the new bus/home }:o)

            Peace along the way
            Dennis the bus dweller N.Y.
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    Wed, October 19, 2005 - 10:35 AM
    Just joined this tribe...(nice people btw)
    We just made our bus livable.Its an '87 international & blue bird body. It was a dark red & white church bus bought at an auction for $600.We think its the greatest thing in the world! Getting advice from a friend and just waiting for the biodesil conversion (tags,insurance as well)to take off from the backyard we're stationed at. I guess the heat is dying off here in FL and in the mornings I wake up and need a blanket.Its nice. We have many plans for the inside and out. Can't wait!
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    Wed, October 26, 2005 - 12:05 PM
    what happens for shower/bathroom when you live on a bus?
    • well, we are in the process of installing a full bath tub and shower unit.For hot water we have an on demand hot water heater that is being installed.It is very efficient...a 20lb cylinder will heat 900 gallons of water to a warm and comfortable temp.

      The water comes from a holding tank bolted/welded under bus.~Pixie
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        Wed, November 2, 2005 - 12:00 AM
        interesting. does the tub and shower take up a very significant amount of your space? Do you feel cramped with it? Can you fill the holding tank up with a regular hose? Is it very expensive to get a bus equiped this way? Have you been able to do some of the work yourself? What about a toilet? I wanna live on a bus!
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          Wed, November 2, 2005 - 12:02 AM
          i don't know if i said that clearly -- by expensive to get a bus equiped that way, I didn't mean to get one that's already done. I mean what does a holding tank cost, and what's it cost to get it attached? What does it cost to get the thing that heats water? Is it relatively easy to figure out how to install it?
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            Wed, November 2, 2005 - 12:33 PM
            We are still working on the water system at this point...we already have the tub,one holding tank and the tankless hot water heater..but have not installed it yet (except the tank)

            Since we are doing all the work ourselves..the work will be free.

            Holding tanks come in all shapes,sizes and materials..hence the price differences can be great.We got our grey water tank from a junkyard..real cheap..like 60 bucks.There are alot of used parts you can get off of old motorhomes in junkyards.

            I have seen new ones for 100 bucks..do a google search of rv fresh water tanks , or something along those lines and youll see. They can go anywhere from 100 bucks to 500..you just gotta look around.

            Because of our layout..it will not be cramped really (our bus is 37 feet also) and we are not really making a seperate room for the bathtub but are including it as part of the bedroom. It will also double as a bench while not in use..lol

            For a toilet there are a few options... are chemical toilets, compost toilets,thetford casette toilets and regular flush rv ones with black water holding tanks.

            Curently we are using a large thetford chemical toilet..which I was very skeptikal of but now we are thinking we may stick with it. It is less weight and hassle then having to empty out a huge black water , and is way smaller. We are going to build a little cabinet for it in the back under the desk to keep it out of the way when not in use. We have had no problems with it all..it even has an area for fresh water and flush. There is never any smell , although we do try,within reason to go to the bathroom elsewhere when we have the oportunity.

            We looked int cmpost toilets too but they are expensive and so huge, so we ruled it out.Thetford cassette toilets are nice..they have a litte compartmnet on the outside of the vehicle and you just pull out the cassette and empty it .

            Instead of air presseure thing for the water system we will just get an air pump and fill the tank with air..this will force the water through the pipes.

            The on demand hot water heaters can be expensive..ours is 800 but is made for rv's you can also get a poloma or aquastar models for houses.

            There is a website..I think it is called busconversions.com and they sell all sorts of books about how to convert a bus..and have ones on water systems, electric..ect..

            I would reccomend doing that. I know it;s overwhelming to think about all the things that need to be learned and done to a bus to make it a home...but just take it one project at a time..search the net, talk to people and find out all you can about each project..you will be amazed what you will acomplish.

            Moss and I knew NOTHING about building or aything before we started.

            If you like,check on our blog, we have step by step details with pics of how we converted our bus..still not done though...it is ongoing.

            Maybe it will give you some inspiration.

            Much Love ~ Pixie
            • i've been researching composting toilet systems so i can develop one that is suitable for full-time bus living.

              commercially-available systems all work on the same priniciples, but they have different gizmos that render them more effective, but can also have drawbacks. gizmos tend to break down... and a broken toilet (esp. when it's your only toilet) is a Very Bad thing.

              the best book i have read and can personally recommend is "The Composting Toilet System Book". it's the best resource i've found. there is an entire section with critiques of commercially-available systems which helped me to come up with a list of features that i found would work best in a bus-home system:

              - a heating element to keep the composting compartment in the ideal range for thermophilic bacteria (above 104 degrees F). wastes will break down fastest in the 104 - 170 degree range.

              - multiple chambers for maximum flexibility and efficiency. as the bins fill up, you can rotate them out of use to make sure that wastes are composted without new material constantly being added. smaller, removable bins also allow you to mix the compost easily for aeration.

              - a fan and vent to increase aeration of the chambers.

              - use modular, off-the-shelf parts. for instance, if you're at maximum capacity in your system, a Rubbermaid storage container is going to be a better choice for your bins than a custom-made one, since it will be easier to replace.

              - divert urine and dispose of separately. if you're really hard-core about it, you can use the urine in a greywater irrigation system. an 8 to 1 water to urine ratio is best, if i remember correctly.

              - use a bulking agent (sawdust, straw, etc.) to lighten up the compost and improve aeration.

              - keep it simple and modular. composting is a low-tech solution on its own - don't go adding more complexity to your system than is necessary. properly done, your toilet should require a minimum of maintenance. this isn't the sort of thing that's enjoyable to monkey around with, so keep the possibility of down-time to a minimum.


              the plans i'm working on are for an MCI-8 motor coach with a urine-diverting toilet. a motor coach is ideal because of the large undercarriage storage compartments that can be used for the toilet system. creating a composting toilet for a schoolie would present some issues with the lack of vertical space. i think it would be pretty difficult, but not impossible.
              • Check out this guy's composting toilet: www.skoolie.net/gallery/album18

                He built it for his skoolie. Totally DIY, on the cheap, and simple. He swears no smell - I bet good composting conditions, regular turning, and very good ventilation are his keys to success. And that it takes him a month or so to fill a 5-gal. bucket. I'm sure there are improvements that can be made, but I plan to try my hand on this rather than go the full route of running all the plumbing, dealing with blackwater tanks and dumping, etc etc etc. Being in Alternative Living Mecca (SF Bay Area), and knowing lots of urban gardeners and farmers, I'm pretty confident that I can dump into their compost without a problem (once it's mostly gone through it's process onboard my bus). I do want to build a removable insulating "sleeve" (kinda like the ones for your beer can) to help keep the heat up in the bucket and encourage faster processing. I also hear that adding a high-protein material, like bonemeal or dog food, improves things.

                BTW, the link above is nested within a more comprehensive website on Eric's conversion process.... lots of really good info and pic's there for folks who are trying to figure things out.

                Peace,
                Valerie
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              Thu, November 10, 2005 - 8:31 PM
              Hmmmm, I wonder if using a cassette toilet would make more sense as I'm not a plumbing expert and I will use other facilities if provided. Tankless water heaters sound awesome! Do you have a food grade 55 gal barrel as your fresh water tank? What about the grey water tank? I also peruse the RV slavage place and just a grey tank would make more sense for me in the form of simplicity. What about the eletricity needed to run a tankless water heater? Do you have a battery bank or what? I have a solar powered battery charger purchased cheap at the salvage place which would be great if I get that set up.....eventually :)

              Happy busing!
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                Sun, November 13, 2005 - 4:29 PM
                Dennis, thanks for the info. Unfortunately, all my scheckels are going to basic buildout right now. Solar power is just way too far down the road to snap up anything right now, no matter how much of a deal it might be!

                I've seen tankless water heaters (I think you mean the on-demand type?) that use propane, and others that use electricity.

                I'm not so happy of the thought of using a plastic container for fresh water, food-grade or no. Too many reports of plastic leaching yuckies over time as it slowly degrades (which it does.... just verrrrrrryyyyyy slllllllowwwwwwlyyyyyy). But that is what tends to be out there. Haven't yet figured out what an alternative would be that wouldn't rust, or also leach yuckies.
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                  Sun, November 13, 2005 - 8:47 PM
                  Well, there just isn't anything out there that with the same durability, lightweight, over all flexability than the plastics. Ceramic with a metal case coupled w/ the weight of water (4 pounds per gal I believe), the floor of your bus would literally fall apart.
                  You'll have to be creative then to find or build a container that does not leech ickies out.

                  Me? The plastic tanks are a dime a dozen esp at the RV salvage place were people enjoy recycling parts from old RVs-I'd just replace it every few years or so making sure your old one got recycled someplace.
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                    Fri, November 18, 2005 - 6:23 PM
                    Yeah, cassete toilets are great and a good space saver..check out the thetford brand..they fold in to save space.

                    Our tankless water heater runs on propane so that is not a problem.

                    We are still working on our water syatem but our grey water tank is metal and our fresh water one probably will be also..but that will be just for showers and washing stuff.

                    For drinking and cooking we will use a refillable 3 gallon jug with filter that we keep on the fridge.

                    We have just purchased two 125 watt solar pannels plus all the mountin stuff, wires and monitoring stuff for 1,400 from rv solar electric. This is a great deal and comes as a package...check them out online....rv solar electric..just google it.They are SOOO helpful and you can ask them anything and they really try to save you money.

                    ~ Pixie


                    Hmmmm, I wonder if using a cassette toilet would make more sense as I'm not a plumbing expert and I will use other facilities if provided. Tankless water heaters sound awesome! Do you have a food grade 55 gal barrel as your fresh water tank? What about the grey water tank? I also peruse the RV slavage place and just a grey tank would make more sense for me in the form of simplicity. What about the eletricity needed to run a tankless water heater? Do you have a battery bank or what? I have a solar powered battery charger purchased cheap at the salvage place which would be great if I get that set up.....eventually :)

                    Happy busing!